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February 09, 2005
Update on Dr. Sosin………
Leave it to Washington State to make it as easy as possible for the faux military to vote [Commissioned Officers of the Public Health Service, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration]…….. and as difficult as possible for the real military.
Now let me state here right now that I do think the CDC and NOAA are very important federal organizations….but do I think they should get the same perks as the real military, which is code to me for “people who can actually get shot while on the job”?
Oh…that’s a big NO.
Not unless you are working in a moon suit with the Ebola virus.
But that’s just my opinion.
Dr.Daniel Sosin of the CDC is a classic example of someone who is not in a moon suit, but is using the perks anyway…..
King County has been as faithful as a dog when it comes to sending him his absentee ballot in Georgia since approximately 1992.
But, they had to be threatened by both the Secretary of State’s office and the DOJ to get the real military ballots out, and even then, as far as I can tell, only at the last minute did they do so.
So I had my very reliable [and very scientific] source call Captain David Bender who is the Adverse Actions Officer For The Commissioned Corp. When the situation was explained to Captain Bender, he stated, “It’s very common for ‘service’ personnel to choose residency in a State for tax, or other, purposes.”
Although when I looked at the law he quoted, SCRA [H.R. 100] there was nothing in it specifically about voting……. that I could find.
To his credit Captain David Bender was very helpful in looking into the issue of Dr.Sosin voting here in Washington State.
He talked to Dr.Sosin, who made a couple of interesting statements to Captain Bender. The first of which was that “He would look into it.”, and the second, and by far more difficult to believe …. “He had no idea that this was on the web”.
Oh really? Since Stefan Sharkansky of Soundpolitics contacted him on or around the 29th of January ……. When Stefan contacted Dr. Sosin and asked if there was a good reason why he was voting in Washington State he replied "Yes there is. But I'm not going to get into it." and he hung up.
Well, I guess just about anyone can assume why he didn’t want to get into it. He’s using a technicality to avoid paying State income taxes in Georgia. That’s the most logical explanation for why he is still listing Washington State as his state of residence. According to Captain Bender again, this is “Not uncommon”, but, and here’s the rub……. in order to pass “the smell test,” Dr.Sosin would also have to have his driver’s license, car registration, and any other State issued licenses in Washington also. I wonder if he has those here, they would probably be much more difficult to get than an absentee ballot.
After all, the dead got their absentee ballots.
And then there’s this…….according to Captain Bender, it’s up to the individual State to allow or disallow the voting.
And according to our state [and county] employees it’s not their job to clean up the voter roles.
So, there you have it. A bureaucrat’s dream…….....a citizen’s nightmare.
How many more of these electoral parasites do we have in this state?
They are voting here to avoid paying State income tax in their actual State of residence, at our expense. Dr.Sosin cancelled out a legitimate vote cast by someone who actually lives here………..on one side or another.
So, this is a loophole that needs to be closed both at the State and Federal level.
In the end, if this was all above board on Dr.Sosin’s part, I’m sure he would have been more than happy to explain it to Stefan Sharkansky. And he wouldn’t have been less than honest with Captain Bender. It’s just common sense. And to head you off at the pass, State Democrats….this does not mean that you should enact a State income tax to stop these people from voting here…..it just means you should purge the voting roles.
Of course, if you want people that have never actually been residents here to vote here because of technicalities…by all means keep up the good work.
Posted by ChristmasGhost at February 9, 2005 04:39 PM
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Looks like I am late on this debate, but for everyone one who said that the Coast Guard is not apart of the military you are wrong. Learn your history. On 28 January 1915, President Woodrow Wilson signed into law the "Act to Create the Coast Guard," an act passed by Congress on 20 January, 1915 that combined the Life-Saving Service and Revenue Cutter Service to form the Coast Guard (38 Stat. L., 800). On 1 April 1967, the Department of Transportation was formed and the Coast Guard transferred to it. Up until that point the CG was under the Treasury Department.
Now as for the wars the the CG was under the control of the Navy. The Navy had the same control then as they still do over the Marines. Are you going to say that the Marines are not in the military? The CG has and does get shot at. Just because you don't see Coasties fighting in ground wars or luanching attacks does not mean that on a day to day basis the threat is not there. Did you ever stop and think that drug runner might have guns? Or that during conflict in Cuba or Haiti that force is not required? The CG keep the US from getting completely over runn by these fleeing refugees.
During the war right now the Cg is not under the Navy nor was it back during Dessert Storm. was the CG there, your better believe it.
I want every person who "thinks" they know about the Coast Guard to go to www.uscg.mil and find out what is true. Oh and notice the .mil only military agencies have that. Get you facts straight.
Posted by: loas at October 11, 2006 06:43 AM
For some clarification, US Public health Service, NOAA Officer Corp, and so on are part of the Uniformed Services of the United States. The Armed Forces are the Navy, Air Force, Army, Marines, and Coast Guard. All of the Armed Services recieve the same pay, advance the same, and have all the same benefits. The only difference is that the Department of Defense runs everything but the CG. The CG is run by the Dept of Homeland Security since 2003. Not only that, but they are armed in combat zones, just like any other service. Check your info before you start talking about stuff you don't know. Look up DC3 Nathan Bruckenthal or Douglas Monroe if you don't think the Coast Guard is part of the military. Douglas Monroe got the Medal of Honor (that's reserved for members of the US Military)
Posted by: Matt at August 2, 2006 12:09 PM
Fireguy I have looked everywhere and can not find anything on NOAA in combat, I have found where they support the military with weather type information but nothing more, would you please post your source I am very interested. I have found many instances of the Coast Guard in combat as my previous post have said that the coast guard has been involved in not only peace time but virtually every war and conflict that the US has been involved in. I don’t know if my post is out of place because I thought the original topic by CG was fraudulent voting by someone working and living in Georgia but claiming Washington state residence
Posted by: rightwingbob at February 12, 2005 07:49 PM
The coast Guard has served in virtually every war and conflict as well as Iraq and even though not part of the U S armed forced may be attached to various units to perform various jobs, there were 8,000 coast guardsmen in Vietnam and 7 killed as well as 60 wounded. They are in Iraq right now with over 1,000 men and women over there. If you would like to check these figures go to http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/faqs/wars.html. The coast guard may fall under the DOT’s umbrella but the DOT is always loaning personnel to various branches of the service
Posted by: rightwingbob at February 12, 2005 07:33 PM
No the Coast Guard is not part of the military. It is only when there is a declared war, the last was WW II. The Coast Guard is part of the Fed. DOT. As far as being shot at, not often at all.
You included NOAA personnel along with this Dr. which is so incorrect. Before you make comments about an organization find out more about them, what they do.
As far Dr. Sosin goes, yes there is a question.
Posted by: fireguy1303 at February 10, 2005 12:22 PM
Well....I guess I should have been more specific, Fireguy. I would never want to leave out the Coast Guard.....as they are part of the military, as you point out.
And even when it is not war time they run the risk of being shot while on the job.
What I do have a problem with are people like Dr.Sosin who was working at the CDC long before he came to Washington for some extra schooling.....and has never really been a resident here at all.He also went to Yale......and was there longer too....why didn't he list that state as his residence? I can guess...they have State income tax. He gets enough perks working for the Federal Government as it is.....so I don't think he should be able to cancel out a vote from someone who does actually live here...... such as one of our military guys that is presently in Iraq.
When this State gets it's act together enough to actually get the ballots out to our military guys in a timely manner, and then ACTUALLY counts them also....we can talk about a civil servant who doesn't think he should have to pay any taxes.
It bothers me that this guy is voting for things he is not HERE to pay for, and at the same time canceling out a legitimate vote.Doesn't this irk you too?
Posted by: christmasghost at February 10, 2005 11:29 AM
Hey Fireguy! I did not feel that the "Ghost" was leaving out the Coast Guard. They do risk their lives in rescue attempts. They are also subject to short term duty assignments and as such are required to move to new stations on a periodic basis. As such they are listed in the SCRA definitions of military service as "(A) in the case of a service member who is a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, or Coast Guard--"
The PHS officers often have orders that keep them in one location for extended periods of time such as Dr. Sosin's 13 years and counting. Perhaps the best criteria might be time at location or indefinite "orders" in determining the qualification. Regardless, I agree that there is a big difference between an Army officer and one of the PHS.
Posted by: Brian at February 10, 2005 11:02 AM
You say that NOAA shouldn't receive the same perks as the military because they are not part of the military, then you forgot the U.S. Coast Guard which is not part of the military.
NOAA is part of the U.S. Dept. of Commerce and NOAA was involved in military action during WWII.
The U.S. Coast Guard is not considered a militaty organization except at time of war when it falls under the Navy Command Structure. The Coast Guard is part of the U.S. DOT.
Better do your home work on how NOAA operatates.
Posted by: fireguy1303 at February 10, 2005 08:31 AM
You say that NOAA shouldn't have the same perks as other Military units as far as voting, because they aren't being shot at.
NOAA is under the Dept. of Commerce and has taken part in war time operations in the past.
You fail to put the U.S. Coast Guard in with NOAA as they to are not a military organization, they are not being shot at, except in time of war when they come under Navy Command.
The Coast Guard is part of the Fed. DOT. I guess you don't know much about NOAA and how they operate.
Posted by: fireguy1303 at February 10, 2005 08:23 AM
You say that NOAA shouldn't have the same perks as other Military units as far as voting, because they aren't being shot at.
NOAA is under the Dept. of Commerce and has taken part in war time operations in the past.
You fail to put the U.S. Coast Guard in with NOAA as they to are not a military organization, they are not being shot at, except in time of war when they come under Navy Command.
The Coast Guard is part of the Fed. DOT. I guess you don't know much about NOAA and how they operate.
Posted by: fireguy1303 at February 10, 2005 08:22 AM
Thanks CG.
While NOAA are indeed important a worthy departments they are not military.
For those interested in seeing the sort of person who had trouble voting in the last election. The 737th Transportation BN of the Army Reserve returns to its home base at Yakima from its Iraqi deployment on Sat 2/12. There is a ceremony at 1pm in the Millennium Plaza.
Posted by: Petrock at February 9, 2005 10:30 PM
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