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I can not agree more about O'Reilly! I am definitely not one of "Da Folks" that needs looking out for! It is very insulting and condescending to say the least. I guess he wishes he had been born a Kennedy rather than an O'Reilly?

I think you need to rethink the use of the term "white Ebonics". If I recall that term was coined using "ebony" as the prime term. Following in tradition might I offer "blanconics" or for those who do not know the term "blanc"
perhaps we should create a term using "Cracker" such as "crackonics."

Then again some might confuse the term "crack" as a type of "ebonodrug." How terribly confusing!

Or we could get wild and use the term "Mickonics" for O'Reilly but then I would have to use "krautonics" I guess. Hmm - use your imagination! How about Spiconics or poleonics or --------
:-O

Or we could get wild and use the term "Mickonics" for O'Reilly but then I would have to use "krautonics" I guess. Hmm - use your imagination! How about Spiconics or poleonics or --------

Isn't that racist?

Blanche....I think "BeenWaitin" was being a smart ass....but I do have a problem with a couple of them too.That being said however, I am a firm believer in free speech and his or her comments don't rise to the level of needing to be censored in my opinion.
People need to be a little less sensitive about nothing and worry about the big somethings that are about to smack them in the head...don't you think?
Sticks and stones and all that you know...

Wow Blanche! My definition of a liberal is one that not only can't take a joke but one who takes race and political correctness way too seriously! If I called myself a Kraut did I offend myself?

The Free Dictionary defines racist as:

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. Or

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

SO HOW WAS THAT RACIST?

He's got you [and me] there Blanche.
Maybe it's time for the whole "everything is racist" shtick to be reconsidered,hmmm?

I watch O'Reilly, mostly just his Talking Points, then I fast forward to P&P. I'll watch Miller Time, I've been a fan of Dennis Miller since the SNL days.

I don't agree with everything these guys say...hell more often than not, I'll doubletake and blink, then scream Are you insane or just functionally retarded? at the guy at least once a night.

I have not watched O'Reilly's "tribute" to Teddy "wait in the car, Mary Jo, I'll go get help" Kennedy. I would expect him to be respectful (I sure as hell wouldn't, but then I'm an asshole) But I really hope it wasn't the gushfest you guys say it was.

TMFo...oh, it was ,it was. O'Reilly just can't help himself...he's a moron and not the good kind either.
How about all the times he "interprets" Obama for us peons because he ONCE had an interview with him and so he knows everything about him now. He didn't just ask softball questions...they were more like cotton balls...and Obama laughed his ass off at him all the way home,you just know he did.
It was so cringe worthy I felt sick after it...and that takes quite a bit.

Now, now. In fairness, I did see the Obama interview. O'Reilly did seem to try to throw out some decent questions, but do you really think Obortion would allow too many tough questions? Consider all the hoops he made O go through just to get the interview: demanding that the interview be spread out over several days, SMACK in the middle of the GOP's biggest shindig?

I don't consider O to be a full conservative. He's a moderate at best, but considering the other moderates out there, I can tolerate the presence of O'Reilly.

And yes, he does tend to try and give Obama the benefit of the doubt, despite the fact that Obama has proven himself a liar and a traitor time and time again. That's one of my biggest gripes against Bill; that and his predilection for giving too many leftist whackjobs air time.

TFMo......I think he let's his huge [without any reason for it] ego get in the way. That's what truly made me ill...the fact that every time someone talks about Obama he will interrupt them and say "well, I KNOW the guy"
Oh, bullshit Bill, you don't know squat.
And no, I don't think Obama would allow too many tough questions and that leaves any real journalist with integrity a choice; do you feed your own ego knowing full well that your "interview" will do nothing more than stoke your own ego AND build up the pathological liar you are interviewing, or refuse to do it on Obama's terms and state to your viewers why. Wouldn't that have been a big wake up call for voters?
And it would have been the right thing to do...

Ego, certainly. An argument could be made that he's earned a bit of ego; ten years or so as number one, I'd be opening every show with "SIT DOWN AND LISTEN FOR YOUR LORD AND MASTER DOTH IMPART GREAT WISDOM UNTO YOU!" Cue the thunder and lightning and send in the scantily clad Valkyries. But yes, he is a bit of an egomaniac.

I full-on agree that no, he clearly DOESN'T know Obama, and frankly (cue Sharpton and the SEIU) I don't think Obama wants ANY white guy to know him, certainly not some mick geezer beating the pants out off his sycophants in that timeslot.

Telling Obortion to go take a piss as a wake up call and the right thing to do? Definitely. Could it ever be done in the real world? NEVER. No way on Earth would Rupert have allowed O to make that call. The first black man to run lead in an presidential election? Whether Obortion had won or lost, that's as big an interview as it gets. I'm sure Bill gets a lot of autonomy and leeway, but if he had told Rupert that he was going to turn Obama down, Rupert would have gone off on him like Joe Pesci on a smart-ass waiter.

I dunno, man. I know you don't like Bill, I know a lot of people don't like him, and I know it's for some pretty good reasons. I just don't dislike him as intensely as you guys. I'm willing to give him credit where credit is due, as I try to with everyone (still waiting on Obama...all I can say for him is he hasn't gotten us all nuked off the planet YET.) Hope you're all cool with that.

TFMo.....you make very good points. Rupert Murdock did, after all, refer to barry as a "rock star"....which really struck me at the time as nothing more than racist posturing. The whole "first anything" bothers me. How about we elect someone that actually is competent to do the job? Would Rupert or O'Reilly choose their heart surgeons based solely on the color of their skin? No way....yet 52% of the American people chose the CEO of this country based solely on that. We have the most inexperienced guy ever to hold the position and he has it because of his skin color. In my book that is racism.
Then we have the "first" Hispanic on the Supreme court...it never ends. And she is no more qualified than barry to run anything other than a race baiting club. 60% of her decisions were overturned...not exactly a good record, and then there is that whole La Raza thing.
What next new and shiny "first" are we going to have? This is a dangerous and foolish way for us to go...and that's one of the main reasons I dislike O'Reilly so much....he is feeding this monster, as are a lot of others.
How about for our next "first" I'll nominate myself as the first 5'3 120 lb woman with epilepsy to operate on O'Reilly should he ever need his heart fixed? Hey I am a woman [+!] and I have a disability [+10!]...of course I'm not qualified to be O'Reilly's heart surgeon but hey,he should just take one for the cause of FIRSTS, right?
I guess I am in the [idealistic] group that thinks the world is what we make of it....if everyone stood up for what is right, instead of WHO is right [that would leave out all their "friends" and owners] we would be better off.
Will it ever happen? Most likely not, but I can keep hoping right?

Heh. Electing someone competent who actually gives a damn about our country? It's rare enough to be considered a first. No one in their right mind would turn down that interview!

First and foremost, FoxNews is a business. They want to make money. They have to make money, or they will cease to exist. And whether we like it or not, the first black to win a party nod for the presidency IS news. Sadly, the question of his competence and/or loyalty to his oath of office would be considered secondary to any news agency, in this context. People running for president who do not have this country's best interest at heart is certainly, and sadly, nothing new.

Obortion, however, certainly took it to a whole new level, both with his race and his alarming disregard for the Constitution and the foundations upon which our country was created and flourished for over two hundred years.

And I agree (again, cue Sharpton and the SEIU thugs) that if he'd been white, he never would have gotten in the door. He is, in every sense of the phrase, an Affirmative Action President. No person, regardless of his ethnicity, religion, gender, or sexual proclivity, should have been a viable candidate given this stellar lack of experience, this rogue's gallery of associations, and political leanings that can only be described as the antithesis of everything laid out in our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I think that Bill has thrown Obama far too many bones and gives him far too much benefit of doubt. But I do not feel, as you seem to, that he is a whole-hog cheerleader for the Commie In Chief. I have seen him voice clear and honest outrage at some of the things Obama and his thugs have done and are trying to do. I think Bill is trying to report from the center, which is something all JOURNALISTS should do.

There is a distinct difference between journalists and commentators. A journalist has the implied burden of presenting facts. JUST FACTS. No opinion, no color commentary, no editorial. Just facts, presented to the public, from which the public forms its opinion. A commentator has the opposite requirement; they are to present their opinions AS OPINIONS. One hopes they use facts to back them up.

Too many journalists are trying to have it both ways; they want to be treated as journalists in regards to the weight given to their words, but they behave as commentators, allowing their opinions to override the facts.

Conversely, too many people are attacking commentators as if they were actual journalists. You get this when you hear the idiots on the left shrieking about how Rush or Beck isn't just reporting the facts. Well duh, they're COMMENTATORS.

Bill, I think, is trying to ride the fence, but facing a different direction. He is trying to behave as a journalist while he works as a commentator. Understandable, given his background is in broadcast journalism. This means he is going to be respectful of the office, and try to respect the person in that office. It means he's not going to come out trashing Ted Kennedy the day he dies, but rather will try to say nice things about him.

Personally, I am with you. I will call a murderer a murderer, regardless of which side of the afterlife he's on at the time. I have the luxury of plain-speaking; I don't have millions of people watching me, nor does my financial well-being rely on keeping those people watching and trying to get more to join in.

Bill says he "knows" Obama. I agree with your doubt there. He's MET the guy, and he seemed like a decent fella. And that's okay. A lot of people have met the guy and they agree that he's charming and personable. He seems fairly approachable and willing to just sit down and chat.

That's a no-brainer. If he was a slobbering maniac, given to fits of wild-eyed giggling and whispering "blood...blood...blood..." in every conversation, if he carved a hammer and sickle into his forehead and smelled of rotted cabbage, I doubt he would have gotten anywhere that didn't have strait-jackets as part of the required wardrobe and copious amounts of Thorazine on the menu. You can't chide Bill for making an obvious observation. But you certainly can for assuming that nice first impression negates the possibility that underneath the polish and poise lies a gibbering, bloodthirsty fanatic.

So I guess, at the end of it all, I think you may be a little more harsh on Bill than is warranted. I'm sure you feel I'm giving him too much credit. As always, the reality is likely somewhere in-between. And I'm cool with that.

And apologies for the insanely long post. I got called away a few times while typing and my train of thought kept leaving the station without me.

"If he was a slobbering maniac, given to fits of wild-eyed giggling and whispering "blood...blood...blood..." in every conversation, if he carved a hammer and sickle into his forehead and smelled of rotted cabbage,"

Wait...you mean he DOESN'T?? HEH.
I am most likely being too hard on O'Reilly....I guess I am like the sunburned kid that everybody keeps slapping on the back.I wish that the media people would do their jobs without preference for personality.
As for it being a business, yes it is, and Beck's ratings are so good because he is telling the truth. My cousin is an editor at the NYT ...yeah I know, every family has one moonbat...and look at their bottom line? Not good is it?
Bill O'Reilly has a following [my stepmother is among them]and I just wish he would use his bully pulpit for more clear observation and less CYA and pimping his factor gear moments. Those are truly cringe worthy.
The line between journalists and commentators has been blurred for a very long time...Walter Cronkite comes to mind....and that's sad, and dangerous for the American people. If Bill were really "lookin' out for da folks"...gads....he would stand up and tell the truth instead of mocking those that do have the guts and decency to tell the truth.
But yeah....I'm sure he means well, and I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'll give him that.

TFMo...are you kidding? You are talking to the original "War and Peace" poster right here.
I loved it.

Glad you like the verbosity. If you haven't checked your e-mail, I sent a submission offering for your site. If you like it and and care to have me on as a contributor, I'd be happy to do so.

And again, remember the difference between a journalist and a commentator. For all Bill's background, he's a commentator, and if you watch his show even as much as I do (again, mostly just the Talking Points and P&P) you'll see that he does try to hold Obortion's feet to the fire fairly often, more often of late.

I agree that those claiming to be journalists need to act like journalists and less like commentators (or worse, members of the Obama Campaign team).

O'Reily has one of those "executive" MBAs from Harvard, which a lot of folks can get by having your company pay Harvard $25,000+ (you must already have a bachelor's degree, and meet certain other requirements) make their employees CVs look "sweller". I have one myself. The school lasts a little over 5 months and it's pretty intense.

Jack

Ahhh. I didn't realize that, Jack. Thanks for clarifying!

Jack...do tell, isn't that interesting? The "five month" Harvard man.....why did I just lose even more respect for him?
I know it's laying around here somewhere....

Check the couch cushions, Ghost...

Check the couch cushions, Ghost...
Gawd...we already have a secret code heh heh heh

Hm. We need to get more readers...

Oh we have readers....they will be more than happy to bitch at you by email. Or threaten your life, which ever comes first.
What we really need are more commenters....
But don't worry about it, if you write something good, what are they going to say? Oh yeah I agree with you? Too LGF-Y.
If you write something really funny and especially if you do a photo shop or political cartoon...then the little bastards start linking to it and it spreads....
Blogging is a lot more work with a lot less to show for it than most people think....but once you start doing it you are going to be like the rest of us completely neurotic people; you'll be waking up in the middle of the night [if you went to bed at all] to write down ideas. you'll have sticky notes stuck to your ass when you get up out of your office chair...always good for a laugh at your expense...I don't know how guys like ace can keep up at the pace they are.